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S2 Ep80. Answer to Job. Part 8. Appraisal.

S2 Ep80. Answer to Job. Part 8. Appraisal.

December 3, 2022

In this last episode of this miniseries I give Jung’s main argument and its pros and cons.

My feelings about the difficulties of the work are as follows:

Firstly, relevance. How much can it offer the modern world?

Secondly, isolationism -  its removal from the other analytic disciplines.

Thirdly, certain inconsistencies which may confuse the reader.

Fourthly, contradiction - whether the archetype of the Self is the totality or a specific archetype.

Fifthly, the inherent difficulty of the text.

Some of its strengths are as follows:

1: Its passion and tremendous personal conviction.

2:  Its roots in childhood experiences (visions, dreams).

3: Answer to Job has extra depth because of the number of esoteric traditions it is linked to.

4: Jung speaks with many voices, as it were out of the depth of many traditions.

5:  The audacity of the text.

6: Jung uses a new voice – that of archetypal psychology combined with mythology  and gnosticism.

7Answer to Job reinforces Jung’s impact on the practice of psychotherapy.

8: Answer to Job has a deep theological critique of Christian and Judaic civilizations.

9:  Jung insisted on the dangers of an apocalypse in our times.

10: Jung insists on the overarching metaphysical dimension to human existence.

S3 Ep32. Respuesta a Job Parte 9. Relevancia al mundo moderno. Spanish language series

S3 Ep32. Respuesta a Job Parte 9. Relevancia al mundo moderno. Spanish language series

December 1, 2022

Este es el episodio final de la miniserie sobre la Respuesta  a Job de Carl Jung. Aqui presento un resumen de su argumento  y doy dos ejemplos de la relevancia para el mundo moderno. En primer lugar, su temor de un apocalipsis moderno. Sin embargo, el vio la posibilidad de un proceso de individuación al traer esto a la conciencia. En segundo lugar, la relación de este texto con la práctica actual del análisis junguiano.

S2 Ep79. Answer to Job. Part 7. Questions and Responses.

S2 Ep79. Answer to Job. Part 7. Questions and Responses.

November 12, 2022

The penultimate episode in this miniseries on Jung's Answer to Job asks the following questions of this text:

Q. Why is there no "real" history, sociology, or political science in the Answer to Job and indeed in Jung’s work in general?

Q. Are there other interpretations of the Answer to Job.

Q. How unusual is Jung’s interpretation?

Q. Jung speaks of God in many ways. Explain further.

Q. Does the theory of evolution change all bible studies including the Answer to Job?

Q. How can God be the totality and at the same time be a specific component of the unconscious?

Q. What impact has Answer to Job had on the practice of Jungian psychotherapy?

S3 Ep31. Respuesta a Job. Parte 8. Valoración crítica. Spanish language series

S3 Ep31. Respuesta a Job. Parte 8. Valoración crítica. Spanish language series

November 1, 2022

Este es el penúltimo episodio de esta miniserie. Examinamos las dificultades y fortalezas del Respuesta a Job.

Las dificultades incluyen:

Su relevancia; su alejamiento de las demás disciplinas analíticas; ciertas inconsistencias que pueden confundir al lector; una contradicción - si el arquetipo del Self es la totalidad o un arquetipo específico; la dificultad inherente del texto.

Algunas de sus fortalezas incluyen:

Su pasión y tremenda convicción personal; una profundidad adicional debido a la cantidad de tradiciones esotéricas a las que está vinculada; Jung habla con muchas voces, como si saliera de muchas tradiciones; la audacia del texto; Jung usa una nueva voz - la de la psicología arquetípica; impacto en la práctica de la psicoterapia; una profunda crítica teológica de las civilizaciones cristiana y judaica; advertencia de los peligros de un apocalipsis en nuestros tiempos; inclusión de la dimensión metafísica global de la existencia humana.

 

S2 Ep78 Answer to Job. Part 6.  God wants to create humanity … but not quite

S2 Ep78 Answer to Job. Part 6. God wants to create humanity … but not quite

October 22, 2022

A resume is given of the episodes so far. Responses to the following questions are given:

Q. Is God separate from us?

Q. How can God be a personality as he mostly appears to be in the bible?

Q. If the dualism of good and evil is contained in God then what is the point of the individuation process in human beings?

Q. How can God be the archetype of the Self?

Q. Jung speaks of the God in different ways in Answer to Job. Is he inconsistent?

Q. How is it possible that God can be equated with the unconscious?

Q. What does Jung mean by God wants to create man but not quite?

S3 Ep30. Respuesta a Job Parte 7. ¿Hay una explicación en la historia judaica y cristiana para la literatura apocalíptica? Spanish language series.

S3 Ep30. Respuesta a Job Parte 7. ¿Hay una explicación en la historia judaica y cristiana para la literatura apocalíptica? Spanish language series.

October 1, 2022

En este episodio queremos responder a las siguientes preguntas

¿Por qué no hay historia 'real', sociología o ciencia política en el libro?

¿Qué explicación histórica podría ofrecerse para la literatura apocalíptica?

¿Por qué la interpretación de Jung es atípica?

Como la teoría de la evolución cambia todos los estudios bíblicos, incluido la Respuesta a Job.

¿Cómo puede Dios ser la totalidad y al mismo tiempo ser un componente específico del inconsciente?

Además, en el episodio de hoy contamos un sueño notable que Jung tuvo en 1920 en su visita al norte de África. Su interpretación del sueño es fascinante e ilustra material importante en la Respuesta a Job.

S2 Ep77. Jung’s Answer to Job. Part 5.  The Contemporary Apocalypse.

S2 Ep77. Jung’s Answer to Job. Part 5. The Contemporary Apocalypse.

October 1, 2022

In this episode we arrive at the last part of the Answer to Job, chapters 15-20. Three of Jung’s arguments stand out.

1. The actual dangers of an apocalypse in our own time.

2. The importance of a uniting symbol such as that of a child-hero or the Virgin Mary that is an attempt to heal the opposites and their terrible danger to humanity.

3. Reflections on the nature of God.

S2 Ep76. Answer to Job. Part 4. The Dark Side of the Creator

S2 Ep76. Answer to Job. Part 4. The Dark Side of the Creator

September 10, 2022

This episode covers chapters 11-14 of Answer to Job. Jung argues that the emergence of Christianity was an attempt to create a totally good god subsequent to the injury done to Job (i.e. mankind) by Yahweh. He focuses on the weakest part of the Christian argument, that which most reveals the dark side of god which cannot be repressed despite the best efforts of Christianity. This is the subject of the Book of Revelation otherwise known as the Apocalypse of John.

S3 Ep29. Jung y la Respuesta a Job. Parte 6.  ¿Un Verdadero Apocalipsis? Spanish language series

S3 Ep29. Jung y la Respuesta a Job. Parte 6. ¿Un Verdadero Apocalipsis? Spanish language series

September 1, 2022

Jung presenta el último libro de la biblia donde los cristianos presentan a su Dios con todas sus contradicciones. Detalla los eventos del Apocalipsis enfatizando el lado oscuro de Dios. Pero lo que perseguía a Jung era la posibilidad de un apocalipsis real. Jung pasó del Libro de Job al Apocalipsis y ahora avanza rápidamente a su propia época. Insinúa que la humanidad está pasando por un proceso de individuación colectiva.

“Respuestas” a los siguientes puntos siguen.

¿Está Dios separado de nosotros?

¿Cómo puede Dios ser una personalidad como parece serlo en la Biblia?

Si el dualismo del bien y el mal está contenido en Dios, entonces ¿cuál es el sentido del proceso de individuación en los seres humanos?

¿Cómo puede Dios ser el arquetipo del Self?

Jung habla de Dios de diferentes maneras en el Libro de Job. ¿Es inconsistente?

¿Cómo es posible que se pueda equiparar a Dios con el inconsciente?

Qué quiere decir Jung cuando dice “Dios quiere crear al hombre pero no del todo”?

S2 Ep75. Jung’s Answer to Job.  Part 3. The Drama between Mankind and God.

S2 Ep75. Jung’s Answer to Job. Part 3. The Drama between Mankind and God.

August 20, 2022

Answer to Job has 20 chapters that formed a complex unity in Jung’s mind. This episode will summarize the first 10 of these. Themes include:

Jung is indignant at the injustice done to Job. The unconscious creator needs conscious humanity so as to develop but, at the same time it opposes this. The incarnation of God into man through Christ is a world-shaking transformation or objectification of God. God needs to become a man. The incarnation is not to make reparation for mankind’s sins but to make up for Yahweh’s damage to Job (i.e. humanity). Yahweh lacks a feminine side – the lost Sophia. Christ embodies the hero myth. The incarnation of Christ is insufficient to deal with the problem of evil. The belief that God is all good is simply not credible. The God image is a mixture of opposites.

S3 Ep28. Jung y la Respuesta a Job. Parte 5. Dios quiere entrar la humanidad. Spanish language series.

S3 Ep28. Jung y la Respuesta a Job. Parte 5. Dios quiere entrar la humanidad. Spanish language series.

August 1, 2022

Jung había vivido las guerras del siglo XX y fue testigo del inmenso impacto de Hitler en las civilizaciónes alemana y europea. Se dio cuenta muy claramente, que con la realidad de la bomba nuclear, la humanidad ahora tenía los medios para la autodestrucción. Para él este era un escenario apocalíptico,  el lado oscuro de Dios expresado a través de la psique humana. En última instancia, Dios no es un ser separado, sino que es la realidad misma y, por lo tanto, también es la humanidad.

S2 Ep74. Jung’s Answer to Job. Part 2. Jung’s Different Voices.

S2 Ep74. Jung’s Answer to Job. Part 2. Jung’s Different Voices.

July 30, 2022

Jung felt that God called on him personally to realise and experience God’s own dark side. And this was the only way that he could experience relief and grace – God’s blessing.

The inspiration for writing the book was as if  he was composing the work of a Bach or Handel.

There are a number of different voices that Jung adopts. He switches between them in a spontaneous intuitive manner in the flow of the text. These include:

# The emotional Jung. # The therapist’s voice. # The theological perspective. # The mystical voice. # The esoteric voice. # The Jungian psychology perspective.  # The voice of archetypal philosophy. # The historical voice.

Jung moves between such different voices with little warning. He is using multiple views and perspectives with great speed and the reader can be left confused Perhaps when one knows the different voices then matters are a little more comprehensible.

S2 Ep73. Exploration of Jung’s Answer to Job. Part 1. The Background.

S2 Ep73. Exploration of Jung’s Answer to Job. Part 1. The Background.

July 9, 2022

This is the start of miniseries within the Spiritual Crisis of our Time in which I examine Jung’s Answer to Job, one of his most enigmatic and fascinating books, written in 1952 and which was clearly of enormous personal importance to him.

This episode:

# explores Jung’s own psychology, especially in his childhood, as a background to this work.

# presents Jung’s account of his religious and theological struggles in his adolescence.

# gives a brief account of the story of Job as presented in the bible.

# presents the question that Jung felt he had to answer.

This series concerns a metaphysical exploration of nature of evil, the contradictions in the godhead, and the dangers to humanity in our own times.

S3 Ep27. Jung y la Respuesta a Job. Parte 4. El lado oscuro de Dios. Spanish language series.

S3 Ep27. Jung y la Respuesta a Job. Parte 4. El lado oscuro de Dios. Spanish language series.

July 1, 2022

Dios quiere entrar en la humanidad pero este es un proceso contradictorio porque trae consigo su lado oscuro a pesar de todos los esfuerzos de la humanidad por limpiar su imagen y convertirlo en el dios de la justicia y el amor.

Jung da más evidencia de un dios iracundo y destructivo de las visiones apocalípticas de Ezequiel, Daniel y Enoc del Antiguo Testamento, y el Libro de Revelaciones, el ultimo del Nuevo Testamento.

Las contradicciones de Yahweh son responsables no solo de la creación del mundo sino del destino de la humanidad que debe vivir estas contradicciones de la deidad.

S2 Ep72. Banishment from Eden and Emergence of Consciousness. The Spiritual Crisis of our Time. Part 15

S2 Ep72. Banishment from Eden and Emergence of Consciousness. The Spiritual Crisis of our Time. Part 15

June 18, 2022

This episode explores the Book of Genesis, in particular the story of Adam and Eve: their existence in the Garden, the temptation to eat the apple from the Tree of Knowledge, and their banishment. It is interpreted as the movement into consciousness which inevitably is also into an awareness of death. A Gnostic and Jungian interpretation of this foundational myth of Western civilization is given. Human consciousness has indeed taken the fruit from the Tree of Knowledge. However, if it is to reach the Tree of Life (the second tree in Eden that is forbidden), the human race in the 21st century will have to pass through the gates of death – either symbolically or literally.

S3 Ep26. Jung y la Respuesta a Job. Parte 3. El drama entre Dios y la humanidad. Spanish language series

S3 Ep26. Jung y la Respuesta a Job. Parte 3. El drama entre Dios y la humanidad. Spanish language series

June 1, 2022

En el ultimo episodio presentamos la experiencia de Jung en su juventud con el inconsciente, que más tarde lo predispuso a identificarse tan profundamente con Job. Experimentó el “otro lado de la psique”, el lado oscuro de Dios. Esto fue como un trauma infligido por Dios pero también fue la fuente de su gracia.

En este episodio cubrimos los primeros 10 capítulos de Respuesta a Job que incluye:

Primero: La naturaleza contradictoria de la personalidad de Yahvé.

Segundo: El tema de que Dios necesita el hombre.

Tercero: Lo que le falta a Yahweh es un lado femenino.

Cuarto: Jung busca la encarnación de Dios a través de Cristo, el dios-hombre. Esto resultó del daño hecho a Job por Yahweh. Cristo seriá perfecto. Satanás tendriá que dejar el cielo y ser arrojado a la tierra. Dios tendriá que entrar en la humanidad.

Quinto: El mal todavía prevalece en la tierra.

Sexto: La creencia de que Dios es todo bueno simplemente no es creíble.

Septimo: La imagen de Dios es una mezcla de opuestos.

S2 Ep71. The Fall from the Garden of Eden. Spiritual Crisis of our Time Part 14

S2 Ep71. The Fall from the Garden of Eden. Spiritual Crisis of our Time Part 14

May 28, 2022

This episode examines the Book of Genesis, the great Judaic creation myth which has been also been fundamental to Christianity. In particular the famous account of the fall and banishment of Adam and Eve from the Garden of Eden is presented. The Tree of Knowledge and the eating of apple is the movement into consciousness; the banishment from the garden is the expulsion from the primal unity (nature, pre-consciousness, pre-civilization, the unconscious). The Serpent, as Lucifer, is the bringer of the light - the meaning of this name in Latin. This is in accord with Gnostic and Jungian interpretations. Genesis is a myth of the birth of human consciousness.

S2 Ep70. The Transition from the Great Mother to the Patriarchy. The Spiritual Crisis of our Time. Part 13.

S2 Ep70. The Transition from the Great Mother to the Patriarchy. The Spiritual Crisis of our Time. Part 13.

May 7, 2022

Having looked at the benevolent and terrible aspects of the Great Mother, and located this duality in the history of our consciousness, I now wish to explore the transition from the Great Mother to the Patriarchy, again understood symbolically and mythologically.

Three to six thousand years ago patriarchal religions replaced Great Mother worship. The masculine became opposed to nature, the realm of the feminine, mythologically portrayed in the dragon fight. This is a fundamental shift in human consciousness and prerequisite to the advancement of patriarchal civilization.

 

S3 Ep25. Jung y la Respuesta a Job. Parte 2. Las diferentes voces de Jung. Spanish language series

S3 Ep25. Jung y la Respuesta a Job. Parte 2. Las diferentes voces de Jung. Spanish language series

May 1, 2022

En opinión de Jung, Yahvé, a pesar de toda su superioridad, no es consciente de los opuestos en sí mismo, pero Job sí lo es. Yahvé está obligado a cambiar y desarrollarse como resultado de su confrontación con Job. Así, Dios o el inconsciente necesitan de la conciencia para realizarse. Esto le da a la conciencia humana una inmensa importancia en el gran esquema de las cosas. En Respuesta a Job, Jung adopta voces diferentes. Éstas incluyen: El Jung emocional; La voz del terapeuta - ¡Jung psicoanaliza a Yahvé!; La perspectiva teológica - especulaciones altamente metafísicas y teológicas; La voz mística- por ejemplo, que Dios necesite al hombre para hacerse más consciente; La voz esotérica - se mueve hacia las creencias esotéricas gnósticas y cabalísticas; La perspectiva de la psicología junguiana; La voz de la filosofía arquetípica; La voz histórica.

Jung se mueve entre las diversas voces con gran velocidad. Quizás si uno conociera las diferentes perspectivas, entonces este texto sería más comprensible.

 

S2 Ep69. The Terrible Great Mother. The Spiritual Crisis of our Time. Part 12

S2 Ep69. The Terrible Great Mother. The Spiritual Crisis of our Time. Part 12

April 16, 2022

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Nature, besides being benevolent, is also death-threatening and appears malevolent. Survival demands aggression. Destructiveness and selfishness are vital parts of our animal and therefore human psyche. Our savagery is infamous. Thus, we have the opposites of nature, the good and the terrible, within ourselves. These opposites in our experience of nature, the two faces of the Great Mother, the good and the terrible, are paralleled very closely by the psychoanalytic school of Melanie Klein which postulates that all human infants begin life in a paranoid schizoid state in which the good and bad breast alternate as fundamental structuring experiences of the infant psyche. This duality is resolved in the ‘depressive position’ which would find its equivalent in the history of the species as the birth of civilization. Freud also postulated that life and civilization emerged and developed out of two polar forces – love and hate.

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